Showing posts with label Karna. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Karna. Show all posts

Friday, May 22, 2026

Who is more powerful, Karna or Arjun?

Karna Vs Arjuna

The debate over who was stronger between Karna and Arjuna is one of the most fascinating aspects of the Mahabharata. Both warriors were matchless archers, divine sons of powerful deities, and possessed extraordinary skills, making them almost equal rivals on the battlefield. To understand who was truly stronger, we have to examine their individual achievements, their unique qualities, and the ultimate circumstances of their final clash at Kurukshetra.

Karna, the son of the Sun God Surya, was born with divine armor and earrings that made him virtually invincible. His strength was not just physical, but also lay in his mental resilience and his legendary generosity. He was known as Danveer Karna because he could never refuse anyone who asked for charity. His absolute confidence and power are evident from the fact that he willingly cut off his own birthright protection, the Kavacha and Kundala, and gifted them to Indra, knowing it would make him vulnerable.

Indra disguised as Bhikshu

Beyond his charity, Karna defeated powerful warriors like Bhima, Sahadeva, and Nakula during the war, sparing their lives only due to a promise made to his mother, Kunti. He also possessed the deadly Vasavi Shakti dart, which was capable of killing any enemy, and was a master of divine weapons.

On the other hand, Arjuna, the son of Indra, was the ultimate personification of focus, discipline, and devotion to archery. Under the guidance of Dronacharya, Arjuna became a flawless warrior who excelled in every form of combat. His achievements were monumental: he defeated the entire Kuru army single-handedly during the Virata war, won the hand of Draupadi by piercing the eye of a rotating fish just by looking at its reflection, and even pleased Lord Shiva in combat to obtain the Pashupatastra. Arjuna possessed the Gandiva bow, a celestial weapon that never failed, and two inexhaustible quivers. His focus was so sharp that he could shoot arrows with equal precision using both hands, earning him the name Savyasachi.

When comparing them face-to-face, their skills were beautifully matched, and throughout the war, they countered each other’s finest attacks. However, during their final duel on the seventeenth day of the Kurukshetra war, multiple curses and a tragic twist of fate caught up with Karna. The earth swallowed the wheel of Karna's chariot due to an old curse. As his chariot sank, the intense stress caused him to forget the incantations for his most powerful weapons, which was another curse from his guru, Parashurama.

Karna stepped down from his chariot, put his weapons aside, and bowed down to lift the heavy wheel out of the mud. He appealed to Arjuna’s sense of Kshatriya dharma, asking him not to strike an unarmed warrior who was grounded. Arjuna hesitated, knowing that attacking an unarmed man went against the codes of righteous warfare.

At this critical moment, Lord Krishna intervened. Krishna reminded Arjuna of the multiple occasions where dharma had been completely abandoned by Karna and his allies. Krishna asked where Karna's sense of righteousness was when Abhimanyu was brutally surrounded and killed by multiple warriors, or when Draupadi was humiliated in the royal court. Krishna explained that Karna had actively supported those unrighteous acts, and therefore, cosmic justice demanded his end. Prompted by Krishna's words about restoring balance and punishing past wrongdoings, Arjuna released the fatal Anjalika weapon, which struck Karna while he was still trying to free his chariot wheel.

Ultimately, deciding who was stronger depends on how strength is measured. If physical invincibility and dealing with constant misfortune are the criteria, Karna stands out as a tragic hero who fought against fate itself. If supreme focus, divine blessings, and fighting on the path of righteousness are the measures, Arjuna proved himself to be the ultimate victor. Their legendary rivalry remains perfectly balanced because while Arjuna won the battle, Karna won eternal glory for his unmatched bravery and sacrifice.

Monday, May 4, 2026

Apart from Karna, which other warrior in the war was a direct descendant of Surya?

 All the Pandavas and Kauravas were direct descendents of Surya.

King Kuru, from whom the dynasty got its name is the son of Tapati, daughter of Surya

Through Tapati, the daughter of Surya, Samvarana had a son named Kuru. Since Kuru was learned in the way of dharma, all the subjects instated him as their king. It is after his name that Kurujangala has become so famous in the world.

  • 89, Sambhava parva, Mahabharata.

Gandharva chitraratha says to Arjuna

O Partha! This is the story of the greatly fortunate Tapati of ancient times. She was the daughter of Vivasvat (Surya) and it is after her that you are named Tapatya. O Arjuna! O greatest among those who scorch! On Tapati, King Samvarana had a son named Kuru. Born in that lineage of Tapati, you are known as Tapatya.”

  • 163, Chaitraratha parva, Mahabharata.

Friday, April 10, 2026

​Why did Karna refuse to join the Pandavas even after Krishna revealed he was the eldest brother?

 The Krishna-karna conversation in Udyoga parva might be interpolated. Therefore let's look at Karna's conversation with Kunti to see his reasoning.

Karna says that people will think that he switched sides because he is afraid of Arjuna

Who does not suffer when Dhananjaya is aided by Krsna? If I now go over to the Parthas, who will not think that I am frightened?

  • 144, Karna Upanivada parva, Mahabharata.

Karna says that he can't abandon the Kauravas suddenly after they have given everything to him and after he had given them hopes of victory

The sons of Dhritarashtra have given me a share in every object of desire. They have honoured me and given me every kind of happiness. How can I act counter to that now?They have always served me and have always bowed down before me, like the Vasus before Vasava. They now confront a feud with an enemy. They think that with my life, they can withstand the enemies. How can I act against the desire that is there in their minds?

  • 144, Karna Upanivada parva, Mahabharata.

So his two reasons were -

A. Fear of being called a coward.

B. Wanting to repay the Kauravas for their helps.

Tuesday, April 7, 2026

Was Karna truly wrong or just loyal to the wrong side?

 Karna was not an innocent person stuck in a wrong side. He was an active participant of Duryodhana's wicked deeds.

Since the days in Gurukula, Karna was jealous of Arjuna. This led to him hating the Pandavas and making friendship with Duryodhana

Then
the
valorous
Drona
taught
Pandu’s
sons
the
use
of
many
weapons,
human
and
divine.
O
bull
among
the Bharata
lineage!
Other
princes
also
came
to
Drona,
supreme
among
Brahmanas,
to
learn
the
use
of
arms—the
Vrishnis,
the
Andhakas,
kings
from
many
countries
and
Radheya,
the
son
of
the
suta.
They
made
Drona
their
preceptor.
The
suta’s
son
was
envious
of
Partha
and
always
competed
with
him.
With
Duryodhana’s
support,
he showed
his
contempt
for
the
Pandavas.”

  • 122, Sambhava Parva, Mahabharata.

Karna was part of the planning to kill Pandavas in Lakshagraha (Vrisha is Karna)

When the Pandavas were not killed through all these means, open and hidden, since they were protected by fate and destiny, he consulted his advisers: Vrisha, Duhshasana and the others. With Dhritarashtra's consent, he had a house of lac built.

  • 55, Adi-vamshavatarana parva, Mahabharata.

Karna laughed at Draupadi as Dushasana dragged her into the assembly

Duhshasana dragged her with even greater force, so that she almost lost her senses. He repeatedly called her “slave” and laughed uproariouslyKarna was delighted at these words and approved of them by laughing out loudly. In similar fashion, Soubala, the king of Gandhara, applauded Duhshasana’s deed.

  • 60, Dyuta parva, Mahabharata.

When Vikarna tried to prove that Draupadi was infact not a slave, Karna countered him saying that Draupadi is a courtesan for having 5 husbands

O descendant of the Kuru lineage! It has been ordained by the gods that a woman should only have one husband. However, she submits to many and it is therefore certain that she is a courtesan. It is my view that there is nothing surprising in her being brought into the sabha in a single garment, or even if she is naked.

  • 61, Dyuta parva, Mahabharata.

Following this, Karna is the one who ordered Dushasana to strip Draupadi naked

O Duhshasana ! This Vikarna is only a child, though he speaks words of wisdom. Strip away the garments from the Pandavas and Draupadi."

  • 61, Dyuta parva, Mahabharata.

Karna told Draupadi to enter Kuru household as a slave and serve the Kauravas

Karna said, “There are three who can own no property—a slave, a student and a woman. O fortunate one! You are the wife of a slave and have nothing of your own. You have no lord and are like the property of slaves. Enter and serve us. That is the task for you in this household. O Princess! All the sons of Dhritarashtra are now your masters and not the sons of Pritha. O beautiful one! Choose another one for your husband, one who will not make you a slave through gambling. Remember the eternal rule among slaves. Sexual acts with one’s masters are never censured. Nakula, Bhimasena, Yudhishthira, Sahadeva and Arjuna have been won over. O Yajnaseni! Enter as a slaveThe ones who have been won over can no longer be your husbands. Valour and virility are of no use to Partha now. In the middle of the sabha, he has gambled away the daughter of Drupada, the king of Panchala.”’

  • 63, Dyuta parva, Mahabharata.

Karna was part of Duryodhana's plan to capture Krishna

They decided on a course of action Duryodhana, Karna, Shakuni Soubala and Duhshasana as the fourth. “Janardana is swift in his action. Before he captures us, with King Dhritarashtra and Shantanu’s son, we will forcibly capture Hrishikesha, that tiger among men, like Indra seized Virochana’s son.

  • 128, Bhagavad Yana parva, Mahabharata.

On 14th day, Karna had no issue attacking Satyaki who did not have a chariot then (Yet this same guy hypocritically called on Arjuna to not attack him when his own chariot sunk to the ground)

On seeing that Satyaki was without a chariot and Karna was attacking him with raised weapons, Madhava blew a rsabha note on his conch shell with great force.

  • 122, Ghatotkacha vadha parva, Mahabharata.

Krishna termed Karna as the root of all of Duryodhana's wicked deeds

O Arjuna! Whether it was the attempt to burn down your mother with her sons in the night, or whatever Suyodhana attempted towards you in the course of the gambling match, the evil-souled Karna was the root of all that. Suyodhana always thought that he would be saved by Karna and angrily tried to seize me too. O one who grants honours! It is the firm belief of that Indra among men, Dhritarashtra’s son, that Karna will certainly defeat all the Parthas in battle. O Kounteya! Though Dhritarashtra’s son knew about your strength, he found pleasure in a conflict with you because he depended on Karna. Karna has always said, “I will defeat the assembled Parthas, Vasudeva and the kings in the great battle.” The evil-minded one has encouraged Dhritarashtra’s evil-souled son and roared in the assembly hall. O descendant of Bharata lineage ! Kill Karna today.

  • 51, Karna Vadha parva, Mahabharata.

Sanjaya severely criticized Karna as a wicked man who gave wrong advises to king Dhritarashtra and Duryodhana

You were avaricious and desired the fruits and did not act in accordance with what was good for you. Your advisers were Duhshasana, the evil-souled Radheya, the evilsouled Shakuni and the evil-minded Chitrasena.They were thorns and they made the entire world full of thorns for themselves.

  • 1, Vishoka parva, Mahabharata.

As you can see, Karna was an active participant in Duryodhana's misdeeds and it's because of his constant encouragement that Duryodhana even dared to wage war against the Pandavas.

Monday, March 30, 2026

How good was Karna at 15 days of the Mahabharata War?

 Karna during first 10 days hadn,’t participated in Kurukshetra war due to Bhishma. It was after Bhishma,’ s fall that Karna had entered Kurukshetra war from day 11. He countered many group attacks and defeated Bhima and Satyaki. He even stalemated Arjuna a few times.

Feats of Karna during first five days before becoming commander of Kaurava army.

  • Defeated Sahadeva on 14th night and spared his life due to his promise to Kunti.

Sanjaya said, “O lord of the earth! Sahadeva wished to advance against Drona. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! In that battle, Vaikartana Karna countered him. Sahadeva pierced Radheya with nine swift arrows. He again pierced him with ten sharp arrows with straight tufts. Karna pierced him back with one hundred arrows with straight tufts. Displaying the lightness of his hands, he quickly severed his bow. Madri’s powerful son picked up another bow. He pierced Karna with twenty arrows and it was extraordinary. Karna killed his horses with arrows with straight tufts. With a broad-headed arrow, he swiftly conveyed his charioteer to Yama’s eternal abode. Deprived of his chariot, Sahadeva grasped a sword and a shield. But Karna struck these down with his arrows and laughed. He then grasped an extremely terrible and extremely large club that was heavy and decorated with gold. In that battle, he hurled it towards Vaikartana’s chariot. It was violently released by Sahadeva and descended. Karna shattered it with his arrows and made it fall down on the ground. On seeing that the club had been destroyed, Sahadeva swiftly hurled a lance towards Karna. But it was struck down by the arrows. O great king! On seeing that Karna was stationed before him, Sahadeva was filled with rage and descended from his chariot. He picked up the wheel of a chariot and hurled it towards Adhiratha’s son. It descended powerfully, like an upraised wheel of time. The son of a suta shattered it with thousands of arrows. Having rendered the wheel unsuccessful, the great-souled Sahadeva was restrained with arrows and left the battle. O bull among the Bharata lineage! For a short while, Radheya followed him. O lord of the earth! He laughed and spoke these words to Sahadeva. ‘O brave one! In a battle, do not fight with rathas who are superior. O son of Madri! Fight with those who are your equals. Do not entertain any doubt about my words.’ He then touched him with the tip of his bow and again spoke these words. ‘In the battle there, Arjuna is endeavouring to fight with the Kurus. O son of Madri! Go there. Or if you wish, go home.’ Having spoken those words, Karna, supreme among rathas, laughed. On his chariot, he proceeded towards the Panchala and Pandu soldiers. O king! The maharatha was devoted to the truth and remembered the words that he had given to Kunti.162 Though the destroyer of enemies could have killed Madri’s son in the battle, he did not slay him.

  • Drona and Karna together fought against Satyaki and Dhrishtadyumna and defeated them along with the Panchalas.

On seeing that the Panchalas were shattered and routed in every way, Janardana was distressed and addressed Phalguna. ‘Parshata and Satyaki, together with the Panchalas, advanced against the great archers, Drona and Karna, and are being killed through fierce arrows. Those maharathas have shattered them with their shower of arrows. O Kounteya! The army should be restrained.

Drona Parva CHAPTER 1124(147)

  • On 14th night of war Karna caused heavy destruction to the Pandava army. The Panchalas and Srinjayas ran away from him.

Radheya afflicted the maharatha Panchalas with his arrows, like clouds raining down on a mountain. The large army of the Panchalas was afflicted by Karna. They fled in fright, like deer assailed by a lion. Horses and elephants fell down on the ground. Here and there, men were seen to swiftly fall down from their chariots. In the great battle, Karna killed the fleeing warriors with his kshurapra arrows and severed arms and heads, still adorned with earrings. O lord of the earth! O venerable one! The thighs of those who were astride elephants, those who were on the backs of horses and those who were on the ground, were severed. But as they fled in the battle, many maharathas did not feel that their limbs or their mounts were severed by arrows. Slaughtered in the battle, the Panchalas and the Srinjayas thought that even the stirring of a blade of grass was the son of the suta. As they were frightened and fled in the battle, the warriors were deprived of their senses and took those on their own side to be Karna and fled in fright. O descendant of the Bharata lineage! As the shattered army fled, Karna quickly pursued it from the rear, showering arrows. They glanced at each other, unconscious and bereft of their senses. They were incapable of standing before the great-souled one, who was like Death. O king! The Panchalas were struck by Karna’s supreme arrows. Others glanced towards Drona and fled in all the directions. ‘“King Yudhishthira saw that his own army was running away.

  • Karna made Satyaki tremble along with Yudhmanyu, Uttamuja, Dhrishtadyumna and Shikhandi and defeated them forcing them to flee from the fight.

BORI CE- Ghatotkach vadh Parv, Chapter 1131(154)

the mighty-armed Karna had attacked the Panchalas. He drew his firm bow all the way back and releasing arrows with drooping tufts, pierced Dhrishtadyumna and Shikhandi with ten arrows each. The supreme among rathas used other iron arrows and made Yudhamanyu, Uttamouja and Satyaki tremble. O lord of men! Both on the left and on the right, all their bows could be seen, drawn into circles as they fought. There was the twang of bowstrings, the slapping of palms and the clatter of chariot wheels. During the night, these sounds were tumultuous, like that of clouds at the end of the summer. O king! The battle was beautiful, as if between clouds. The twang of bowstrings and the clatter of wheels were the roar. The bows were drawn into circles. The standards were like peaks. The torrent of arrows was like rain. Vaikartana was like a mountain that did not tremble. He had the essence of a large mountain. O Indra among men! In that battle, the scorcher of a large number of enemies repulsed that hail of arrows and it was wonderful. His sharp arrows were gold-tufted and colourful. They possessed the force of thunder. In that encounter, the great-souled one struck the enemy. Vaikartana was engaged in ensuring the welfare of your sons. The standards of some were brought down. The bodies of others were mangled by the arrows. Some lost their charioteers. Others lost their horses. Achieving this quickly, Vaikartana was resplendent. In that battle, many were severely afflicted and went and joined Yudhishthira’s army. ‘“On seeing that they were shattered and routed, Ghatotkacha became angry.

  • Karna countered 1000 illusions of Ghatotkacha and killed him with Vasavi shakti.
  • Caught the Asani Vajra of Ghatotkacha and hurled it back at him destroying his chariot.

Monday, February 23, 2026

When Kunti went to meet Karna, was she concerned about her six sons, or was it a political move?

 Kunti meeting Karna begging him to spare lives of her other sons, just before the commencement of the war is an interpolated story in view of the following reasons, included just to add melodrama to the situation.

a) Kunti begot Karna, when she was still unmarried and left him in waters due to intense fear of social stigma, as he was born before her marriage through a divine boon from Sage Durvasa.

We have to note a crucial issue that even in our age many just born babies born out of wedlock, are being abandoned by the mothers concerned, due to intense fear of social stigma. Then, what would be the mental status of an young, unmarried princess - in the time period almost 5,000 years ago, who was forced to give birth to a son?

Whether anyone likes it or not, the young princess (Kunti) abandoned her new born son, and moved along with the time, got married, gave birth to 3 sons.

b) It was when the Pandavas and Kauravas were exhibiting their martial skills before their families and friends, and people, ie., almost after 20 years later that Kunti first had glimpse of her first son Karna.

By the time, her concentration was fully focused on the growth of Pandavas only. Though she was perturbed at the sight of her first son (Karna) and her 4th son(Arjuna) facing each other and about fight, she did not reveal the secret.

c) Almost 25 to 30 years later, it had become known to everyone that the war is imminent between Kauravas and Pandavas, as the Shri Krishna failed in bringing peace between them.

Shri Krishna informs everything to Kunti and asks for her message to Pandavas, as she was living in the house of Vidura at that point of time.

The following is the Kunti’s message. Shlokas are from 137th chapter of Udyoga Parva and English translation is from KMG. Please note that these shlokas are available even in BORI’s version.

नमो धर्माय महते धर्मो धारयति प्रजाः ॥

एतद्धनञ्जयो वाच्यो नित्योद्युक्तो वृकोदरः । यदर्थं क्षत्रिया सूते तस्य कालोऽयमागतः ॥

न हि वैरं समासाद्य सीदन्ति पुरुषर्षभाः ॥

विदिता ते सदा बुद्धिर्भीमस्य न स शाम्यति । यावदन्तं न कुरुते शत्रूणां शत्रुकर्शनः ॥

सर्वधर्मविशेषज्ञां स्नुषां पाण्डोर्महात्मनः । ब्रूया माधव कल्याणीं कृष्णां कृष्ण यशस्विनीम् ॥

युक्तमेतन्महाभागे कुले जाते यशस्विनि । यन्मे पुत्रेषु सर्वेषु यथावत्त्वमवर्तिथाः ॥

माद्रीपुत्रौ च वक्तव्यौ क्षत्रधर्मरतावुभौ । विक्रमेणार्जितान्भोगान्वृणीतं जीवितादपि ॥

विक्रमाधिगता ह्यर्थाः क्षत्रधर्मेण जीवतः । मनो मनुष्यस्य सदा प्रीणन्ति पुरुषोत्तम ॥

यच्च वः प्रेक्षमाणानां सर्वधर्मोपचायिनी । पाञ्चाली परुषाण्युक्ता को नु तत्क्षन्तुमर्हति ॥

न राज्यहरणं दुःखं द्यूते चापि पराजयः । प्रव्राजनं सुतानां वा न मे तद्दुःखकारणम् ॥

यत्तु सा बृहती श्यामा सभायां रुदती तदा । अश्रौषीत्परुषा वाचस्तन्मे दुःखतरं मतम् ॥

स्त्रीधर्मिणी वरारोहा क्षत्रधर्मरता सदा । नाध्यगच्छत्तदा नाथं कृष्णा नाथवती सती ॥

तं वै ब्रूहि महाबाहो सर्वशस्त्रभृतां वरम् । अर्जुनं पुरुषव्याघ्रं द्रौपद्याः पदवीं चर ॥

विदितौ हि तवात्यन्तं क्रुद्धाविव यमान्तकौ । भीमार्जुनौ नयेतां हि देवानपि परां गतिम् ॥

तयोश्चैतदवज्ञानं यत्सा कृष्णा सभागता । दुःशासनश्च यद्भीमं कटुकान्यभ्यभाषत ॥

पश्यतां कुरुवीराणां तच्च संस्मारयेः पुनः ॥

पाण्डवान्कुशलं पृच्छेः सपुत्रान्कृष्णया सह । मां च कुशलिनीं ब्रूयास्तेषु भूयो जनार्दन ॥

अरिष्टं गच्छ पन्थानं पुत्रान्मे परिपालय ॥

Thou shalt say these words unto Dhananjaya. Unto Vrikodara again, who is always ready for exertion, thou shalt say these words,

'The time hath come for that in view of which Kshatriya lady bringeth forth a son! They that are foremost among men never become cheerless when they have hostilities to wage--

Thou knowest what the state of Bhima's mind is. That grinder of foes is never pacified until he exterminates his foes.

Thou shalt, O Madhava, next say unto the auspicious Krishna of great fame, that daughter-in-law of the high-souled Pandu, who is conversant with the details of every virtue, these words, 'O thou that art highly blessed, O thou of noble parentage, O thou that art endued with great fame, that becoming behaviour which thou always showest towards my sons is, indeed, worthy of thee.'

Thou must also say unto the sons of Madri who are always devoted to Kshatriya virtues, these words, 'Covet ye more than life itself, those enjoyments that are acquired by prowess. Objects won by prowess always please the heart of a person that liveth according to Kshatriya practices. Engaged as ye are in acquiring every kind of virtue, before your eyes the princess of Panchala was addressed in cruel and abusive epithets. Who is there that can forgive that insult?

The deprivation of their kingdom grieved me not. Their defeat at dice grieved me not. But that noble and fair Draupadi, however, while weeping in the midst of the assembly, had to hear those cruel and insulting words is what grieveth me most.

Alas, exceedingly beautiful Krishna, ever devoted to Kshatriya virtues, found no protector on that occasion, though she was wedded to such powerful protectors. O thou of mighty arms, say unto that tiger among men, Arjuna, that foremost of all wielders of weapons, that he should always tread in the path that may be pointed out by Draupadi.

Thou knowest it very well, Kesava, that Bhima and Arjuna,--that pair of fierce and all-destroying Yamas, are capable of making the very gods go the way of all creatures. Is not this an insult to them that (their wife) Krishna was dragged into the assembly?

O Kesava, recall to their remembrance all those cruel and harsh words that Dussasana said unto Bhima in the very presence of all the warriors of Kuru's race. Enquire (in my name) after the welfare of the Pandavas with their children and Krishna. Say unto them, O Janardana, that I am well.

Go thou on thy auspicious way, and protect my sons!'

d) The question is, can Kunti -

  • (i) a mother of Kshtriyas ,
  • (ii) living and wishing all along for the welfare of her sons,
  • (iii) who has confidence that Bhima and Arjuna can even win Gods, and
  • (iv) who communicated such an inspiring speech to her sons just before the commencement of the war, through Shri Krishna,

stoop to such a low level of begging before her abandoned first son Karna, to spare lives of her other sons?

Ridiculous!

As far as I am concerned, I do not think that Kunti stooped to that low level of begging Karna. It is an interpolated episode, added to evoke melodrama.

e ) Finally, Kunti requesting Yudhisthira to give water oblation to her abandoned first son Karna appears in the final part of Stri Parva of Mahabharata.

If we study carefully the Stri Parva, we can find to our astonishment that this section appears, after Yudhisthira performing the final rites to all warriors, including Karna, who died in the war.

कर्णं वैकर्तनं चैव सहपुत्रममर्षणम् ।

केकयांश्च महेष्वासांस्त्रिगर्तांश्च महारथान् ॥

(the bodies of) Karna and his son of great wrath; of those great bowmen, the Kekaya princes, and those mighty car-warriors, the Trigartas (were burnt).

Hence, Kunti requesting Yudhisthira to give water oblation to her abandoned first son Karna is also an interpolation.