Showing posts with label Pandavas. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Pandavas. Show all posts

Monday, November 17, 2025

Among Pandavas, who wanted war and who wanted peace?

 

  1. Yudhisthira wanted Peace :-

What can be more sorrowful, O Janardana, than this, that I am unable to maintain my mother and my friends? Having the Kasis, the Panchalas, the Chedis, and the Matsyas, for my allies and with thee, O slayer of Madhu, for my protector, I prayed for only five villages, etc., AvishthalaVrikasthalaMakandiVaranavata, with any other, O Govinda, as the fifth;--Grant us, we said, five villages or towns, O sire, where we five may dwell in union, for we do not desire the destruction of the Bharatas.

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXII

2. Bhima surprisingly went for Peace.

Bhima said, 'Speak thou, O slayer of Madhu, in such a strain that there may be peace with the Kurus. Do not threaten them with war. Resenting everything, his wrath always excited, hostile to his own good and arrogant, Duryodhana should not be roughly addressed. Do thou behave towards him with mildness. Duryodhana is by nature sinful of heart like that of a robber, intoxicated with the pride of prosperity, hostile to the Pandavas, without foresight, cruel in speech, always disposed to censure others, of wicked prowess, of wrath not easily to be appeased, not susceptible of being taught, of wicked soul, deceitful in behaviour, capable of giving up his very life rather than break or give up his own opinion. Peace with such a one, O Krishna, is, I suppose, most difficult. Regardless of the words of even his well-wishers, destitute of virtue, loving falsehood, he always acts against the words of his counsellors and wounds their hearts.

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXIV

3. Arjuna too was for Peace.

"Arjuna said, 'O Janardana, Yudhishthira hath already said what should be said. But, O chastiser of foes, hearing what thou hast said, it seemeth to me that thou, O lord, does not think peace to be easily obtainable either in consequence of Dhritarashtra's covetousness or from our present weakness. Thou thinkest also that human prowess alone is fruitless, and also that without putting forth one's prowess one's purposes cannot be achieved. What thou hast said may be true, but at the same time it may not always be true. Nothing, however, should be regarded as impracticable. It is true, peace seemeth to thee to be impossible in consequence of our distressful condition, yet they are still acting against us without reaping the fruits of their acts. Peace, therefore, if properly proposed, O lord, may be concluded. O Krishna, strive thou, therefore, to bring about peace with the foe.

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXVIII

4. Nakula was prepared for anything Peace or war. He said it depends on how Enemies behave.

Nakula said, 'Much hath been said, O Madhava, by king Yudhishthira the just who is conversant with morality and endued with liberality, and thou hast heard what hath been said by Falguni also. As regards my own opinion, O hero, thou hast repeatedly expressed it, Hearing first what the wishes of the enemy are and disregarding all, do what thou regardest to be proper for the occasion. O Kesava, diverse are the conclusions arrived at as regards diverse matters. Success, however, O chastiser of foes, is won when a man doth that which ought to be done in view of the occasion. When a thing is settled in one way on one occasion, it becometh unsuitable when the occasion becometh different. Persons, therefore, in this world, O foremost of men, cannot stick to the same opinion throughout. While we were living in the woods, our hearts were inclined towards a particular course of action. While we were passing the period of concealment, our wishes were of one kind, and now, at the present time, O Krishna, when concealment is no longer necessary, our wishes have become different. O thou of the Vrishni race, while we wandered in the woods, attachment for the kingdom was not so great as now. The period of our exile having ceased, hearing, O hero, that we have returned, an army numbering full seven Akshauhinis hath, through thy grace, O Janardana, been assembled. Beholding these tigers among men, of inconceivable might and prowess, standing equipped for battle armed with weapons, what man is there that will not be struck with fear? Therefore going into the midst of the Kurus, speak thou first words fraught with mildness and then those fraught with threats, so that the wicked Suyodhana may be agitated with fear.

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXX

5. Sahadeva was for all out war. He was supported by Satyaki.

Sahadeva said, 'What hath been said by the king is, indeed, eternal virtue, but thou, O chastiser of foes, shouldst act, in such a way that war may certainly happen. Even if the Kauravas express their desire for peace with the Pandavas, still, O thou of Dasarha's race, provoke thou a war with them. Having seen, O Krishna, the princess of Panchala brought in that plight into the midst of the assembly, how can my wrath be appeased without the slaughter of Suyodhana. If, O Krishna, Bhima and Arjuna and king Yudhishthira the just are disposed to be virtuous, abandoning virtue I desire an encounter with Duryodhana in battle.'

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXXI

6. Panchali Draupadi the sixth Pandava also wanted war and she Expressed her sorrow to krishna how badly she was treated.

O Janardana, thou knowest all these sorrows of mine. Rescue me, O lotus-eyed one, with my husbands, kinsmen, and relatives, from that grief. Morally, O Krishna, I am the daughter-in-law of both Bhishma and Dhritarashtra. Though such, I was yet forcibly made a slave. Fie to Partha's bowmanship, oh, fie to Bhimasena's might since Duryodhana, O Krishna, liveth for even a moment. If I deserve any favour at thy hands, if thou hast any compassion for me, let thy wrath, O Krishna, be directed towards the sons of Dhritarashtra.'

Draupadi even said that if Pandavas led by Bhima and Armuna don't fight her father, brother will fight and alos her 5 sons led by Abhimanyu will fight for her.

If Bhima and Arjuna, O Krishna, have become so low as to long for peace, my aged father then with his war like sons will avenge for me in battle. My five sons also that are endued with great energy, with Abhimanyu, O slayer of Madhu, at their head, will fight with the Kauravas. What peace can this heart of mine know unless I behold Dussasana's dark arm severed from his trunk and pulverised to atoms? Thirteen long years have I passed in expectation of better times, hiding in my heart my wrath like a smouldering fire.

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXXII

After Draupadi had spoken she began to cry and then Krishna spoke and assured her that he will get justice for her.

The mighty-armed Kesava then spoke, comforting her in these words, 'Soon wilt thou, O Krishna, behold the ladies of Bharata's race weep as thou dost. Even they, O timid one, will weep like thee, their kinsmen and friends being slain. They with whom, O lady, thou art angry, have their kinsmen and warriors already slain. With Bhima and Arjuna and the twins, at Yudhishthira's command, and agreeably to fate, and what hath been ordained by the Ordainer, I will accomplish all this. Their hour having arrived, the sons of Dhritarashtra, if they do not listen to my words, will surely lie down on the earth turned as morsels of dogs and jackals. The mountains of Himavat might shift their site, the Earth herself might spilt into a hundred fragments, the firmament itself with its myriads of stars might fall down, still my words can never be futile. Stop thy tears, I swear to thee, O Krishna, soon wilt thou see thy husbands, with their enemies slain, and with prosperity crowning them.'"

Udyoga Parva: Bhagwat Yana Parva: Section LXXXII

So in all Yudhisthira, Bhima and Arjuna went for Peace, Draupadi and Sahadeva wanted war and Nakula was prepared for any evenuality.

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Monday, May 26, 2025

ಪಾಂಡವರಲ್ಲಿ ದೇಹಸಹಿತ ಸ್ವರ್ಗ ಸೇರಿದ ಏಕೈಕ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಿ ಯಾರು?

 ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರ

ಶ್ರೀ ಕೃಷ್ಣನ ಮರಣದ ನಂತರ ಪಾಂಡವರು ಸಂಪತ್ತು ಮತ್ತು ರಾಜ್ಯವನ್ನು ತೊರೆದರು ಮತ್ತು ವೇದವ್ಯಾಸ ಋಷಿಗಳ ಆದೇಶದಂತೆ ಅವರು ನಾಯಿಯೊಂದಿಗೆ ತಮ್ಮ ಜೀವಂತ ದೇಹದೊಂದಿಗೆ ಸ್ವರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ಹೋಗಲು ನಿರ್ಧರಿಸಿದರು.

ಅವರು ತಮ್ಮ ಪ್ರಯಾಣವನ್ನು ಒಂದು ದಿಕ್ಕಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಪ್ರಾರಂಭಿಸಿದರು ಮತ್ತು ನಿರಂತರವಾಗಿ ನಡೆದು ಹಿಮಾಲಯದ ಬಳಿ ತಲುಪಿದರು, ನಿರಂತರವಾಗಿ ನಡೆಯುತ್ತಾ 'ಸುಮೇರು ಪರ್ವತ'ವನ್ನು ನೋಡಿದರು.

ಅವರು ಸುಮೇರು ಪರ್ವತವನ್ನು ದಾಟುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾಗ ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಪರ್ವತದಿಂದ ಕೆಳಗೆ ಬಿದ್ದು ಸತ್ತಳು. ಸತ್ತ ನಂತರ ಭೀಮನು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನನ್ನು ಕೇಳಿದನು, ಅವಳಿಗೆ ಏಕೆ ಹೀಗಾಯಿತು? ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ಉತ್ತರಿಸಿದನು, "ಅವಳು ನಮ್ಮ ನಾಲ್ವರಿಗಿಂತ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಅರ್ಜುನನನ್ನು ಪ್ರೀತಿಸುತ್ತಾಳೆ ಮತ್ತು ಇದಕ್ಕೆ ಉತ್ತರಿಸಿದ ನಂತರ ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಕಡೆಗೆ ಹಿಂತಿರುಗಿ ನೋಡದೆ ನಿರಂತರವಾಗಿ ಮುಂದೆ ನಡೆಯುತ್ತಿದ್ದನು.

ಸ್ವಲ್ಪ ಸಮಯದ ನಂತರ ಸಹದೇವ ಕೆಳಗೆ ಬಿದ್ದು ಸತ್ತನು, ಮತ್ತೆ ಭೀಮನು ಅವನ ಸಾವಿಗೆ ಕಾರಣವನ್ನು ಕೇಳಿದನು,ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ನೀಡಿದ ಉತ್ತರವೆಂದರೆ ಅವನು ಯಾವಾಗಲೂ ಇತರರಿಗಿಂತ ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಬುದ್ಧಿವಂತ ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತಾನೆ.

ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಮತ್ತು ಸಹದೇವನ ನಂತರ, ನಕುಲ್ ಕೂಡ ಪರ್ವತದಿಂದ ಬಿದ್ದು, ಈಗ ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನ ಪ್ರಕಾರ ಅವನು ಯಾವಾಗಲೂ ತನ್ನ ಶ್ರೇಷ್ಠ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಿತ್ವದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆಪಡುತ್ತಿದ್ದನು.

ನಂತರ ಅರ್ಜುನ್ ಕೂಡ ಬಿದ್ದು ಸಾವನ್ನಪ್ಪಿದ್ದಾನೆ. ಅರ್ಜುನನು ತನ್ನ ಶಕ್ತಿಗಳ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಯಾವಾಗಲೂ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆಪಡುತ್ತಾನೆ ಎಂದು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ಭೀಮನಿಗೆ ಹೇಳಿದನು.

ಮತ್ತು ಮುಂದೆ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾ ಭೀಮನೂ ಕೆಳಗೆ ಬಿದ್ದನು ಮತ್ತು ಅವನು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠರನನ್ನು ಜೋರಾಗಿ ಕೇಳಿದನು, ನನಗೆ ಇದು ಏಕೆ ಸಂಭವಿಸಿತು ಎಂದು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠರನು ಅವನಿಗೆ ಉತ್ತರಿಸಿದನು, ನೀನು ಯಾವಾಗಲೂ ತುಂಬಾ ಆಹಾರವನ್ನು ತಿನ್ನುತ್ತೀಯ ಮತ್ತು ನಿನ್ನ ಶಕ್ತಿಯ ಹುಸಿ ದುರಹಂಕಾರವನ್ನು ಹೊಂದಿದ್ದೀಯ.

ಕೊನೆಗೆ ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠರ ಮತ್ತು ನಾಯಿ ಮಾತ್ರ ಉಳಿದುಕೊಂಡಿತು, ಸ್ವಲ್ಪ ದೂರ ನಡೆದ ನಂತರ ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ಸ್ವೀಕರಿಸಲು ಸ್ವತಃ ಬಂದನು.

ನನ್ನ ಸಹೋದರರು ಮತ್ತು ಹೆಂಡತಿ ದಾರಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬಿದ್ದು ಸತ್ತರು, ಆದ್ದರಿಂದ ಅವರು ಸ್ವರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ಬರಲು ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ಏನಾದರೂ ಮಾಡಿ ಎಂದು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ಇಂದ್ರ ದೇವರಿಗೆ ಹೇಳಿದನು. ಇಂದ್ರ ದೇವರು ಹೇಳಿದನು ಚಿಂತಿಸಬೇಡಿ ಅವರು ಈಗಾಗಲೇ ಸ್ವರ್ಗಕ್ಕೆ ತಲುಪಿದ್ದಾರೆ ಆದರೆ ವ್ಯತ್ಯಾಸವೆಂದರೆ ಅವರು ತಮ್ಮ ಆತ್ಮ ದೇಹವನ್ನು ತಲುಪಿದ್ದಾರೆ ಮತ್ತು ನೀವು ಇಲ್ಲಿಗೆ ಜೀವಂತವಾಗಿ ಬಂದಿದ್ದೀರಿ.

ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠಿರನು ಇಂದ್ರ ದೇವರನ್ನು ತನ್ನೊಂದಿಗೆ ನಾಯಿಯನ್ನು ಕರೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಹೋಗಬೇಕೆಂದು ಕೇಳಿದನು, ನಂತರ ನಾಯಿಯು ತನ್ನ ನೈಜ ಸ್ವರೂಪಕ್ಕೆ ಬದಲಾಯಿತು ಮತ್ತು ಅದು ಧರ್ಮರಾಜನೇ ಹೊರತು ಬೇರೆ ಯಾರೂ ಅಲ್ಲ. ಕೊನೆಗೆ ಇಂದ್ರ ದೇವರು ಯುಧಿಷ್ಠರನನ್ನು ಕರೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಹೋದನು.

Wednesday, March 26, 2025

Why did Karna hate Pandavas? Why was he so obsessed with defeating Arjun?

 Hatred n’ at opposite ends may not mean the same. They were aligned at opposite poles by virtue of their birth.

Karna was against apartheid of the Royal Kingdom n’ their entourage who right from birth humiliated him for being a Shudra Putra or a Suta Putra, an offensive term indicating racial profiling.

The Blue blooded guys looked down on their race and defined limits to their occupational and professional rights, including freedom of speech. Pretty much serfdom!

In 21st Century, in a country like India where the Epic originated, the Law elucidates, you could end up in prison for the rest of the life by merely using the “clan” word. Such was the dread! That model hasn't changed. So the other segment has to zip up and endure in silence for trepidation of repercussions!

Putting into perspective, imagine the kinda life Karna led right from being discarded at birth and the barriers at every step. As if he had no right to live being a Suta Putra. Before you judge Karna, fathom one's own self today in a verisimilitude of sitch.

For Karna, that speaketh of, at every step, every breath he took, every decision he had to make was toxic!

His merit was dishonored, skills purged, education denied. As if that weren't enough, incessant humiliation.

The injustice unto lower clans by virtue of Royal prerogatives was too much for him to take. Eklavya for instance, was shunned from practice of Archery. They took away his thumb!

Karna was given no opportunity to prove his worth ever.

He wasn't a lower clan guy either. He was divine. His point was there should be equanimity of laws, recognition of merit, liberty to choose your occupation and a coherent justice system. The Kshatriyas as they were called liked to decide everything for the hoipolloi. They called the shots. They controlled the bureaucracy of all, including Pandits in an autocratic law that they formulated.

On the other end, were the Pandavas who embraced the Royal Shroud of supremacy, availing the leverage of all benefits. Arjuna, who constantly boasted of his supremacy miffed Karna! He was of the purview others should be evaluated before reaching a judgement.

Education, Occupation, Profession should be based on Merit, not by virtue of what your race is. It should be your deeds, Karmas that should be the governing factor.

This systematic demarcation, isolation is ADHARMA!

Only Duryodhana stood by Karna, who incidentally was at loggerheads with Pandavas. And there's that loyalty, allegiant factor that defines a COMPLETE MAN! Karna picked his Dharma as per the loci of the vicissitudes of his life!